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Serge

Would you recommend this to someone who’s never owned a receiver? What other receivers have you been able to compare it to (Sony, Onkyo, Denon, etc.)? I was thinking of purchasing RX-V477, in tandem with two floor speakers, a center speaker, and a sub from the Pioneer SP (Andrew Jones) family.

I’m writing the receivers piece for The Wirecutter right now, so I directly compared it to models from Pioneer, Sony, Onkyo and Anthem from this year.

Since the Andrew Jones floor speakers are 6 ohm nominal the Yamaha will do OK with them, and probably produce around 60-70 watts in stereo. The Onkyo TX-NR636 (review coming) will produce far more power, but costs a little bit more. The Yamaha will do better than other $400 receivers will, though.

Serge

Thank you so much for the suggestion and I love your work on Wirecutter (can’t wait for the receiver article update). Is NR636 one of your picks?

It will be the pick once it goes up. I’ll be working on a separate review that goes into even more depth, as Wirecutter reviews don’t focus on a specific product. I also want to use more of the Audio Precision bench tests on it, as it does very well.

Lean Pilar

witch speaker do you recommend to use with this one? NS-150 set? or NS 333-c444-555?

I have not heard any of the Yamaha home speakers so I can’t comment on those. The Pioneer Andrew Jones line is very good for the money and a full 5 channel system is very affordable. Otherwise I’ll be looking at bookshelf speakers for The Wirecutter soon and can offer more impressions then.

Tate Holt

Energy Take Classic 5.1 speakers are sounding good with my V473.

Audio

Hello Chris, excellent article. I really like the tests you are performing, can you please do a distortion test for the whole audible spectrum (20~20kHz) instead of only 1kHz? At least for just the 2 outs, like for Hi-Fi use.
All the best.

That is planned for the future. There was an issue with the 20 kHz measurements, which turned out to be a computer monitor also here for review that was causing some line noise up at 60 kHz in the power supply that made the APx number high in those results. The RX-V477 did measure at full power at 20Hz. It was full power at 20 kHz when filtered (because of the monitor), though it’s gone now so I can’t retest. Another Yamaha is here for review now and it will have full testing from 20 Hz to 20 kHz for… Read more »

Dragos Galben

Hello Chris.

One thing I’m wondering, you say it’s not supporting 4k, but the Yamaha website states that it does:

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v477_black_u/

It seems to be the same model. Am I missing something, or has it changed since your review?
Thank you for it, btw.

This is where it gets confusing. The Yamaha supports 4K, but there is more to is than that. You can do 4K over HDMI 1.4 connectors but that limits your frame rate (usually below 30) or color depth and bitrate. HDMI 2.0 can support higher frame rates, more colors, and more bit depth (for better gradients like a blue sky) but doesn’t have to. As I said, it’s confusing, and you can label a product as HDMI 2.0 while only supporting some of those features. Finally, almost all current 4K content is upscaled HD content, say from a 4K scaling… Read more »

Dragos Galben

Thank you for taking the time to clear things. Looking forward to your next article.
Have a great week.

Alex Krstic

Chris, the Yamaha site states the 477 will have a firmware update to support HDMI 2.0. Would that mean it only will be missing 2.2 copy protection?

Thanks

Alex

HDCP 2.2 can only be added through hardware and not software. So the chipset might have the bandwidth to do HDMI 2.0 features (or it has HDMI 1.4 bandwidth but adds support for 4:2:0 chroma subsampling and then can call itself HDMI 2.0) but without HDCP 2.2 that future 4K content is almost certainly not going to work.

Tate Holt

Chris- I’ve been having trouble with my 2012 rx-v473…HDMI handshake issues resulting in no sound, decoder off & purple/pink hue on video content.

I route all equipment through AVR via HDMI with one HDMI out to TV.

Yamaha first offered to replace my AVR with a refurbished V475 (2013 model) but then offered a NEW V477.

Just curious what you ink about these options for V473
replacement. I’m leery about refurbished so I jumped on the new V477 offer.

Thanks

Unfortunately I haven’t tested the 473 so I can’t really tell you much about it. I tested the 375 last year, but not to the depth that I tested the 477 so I don’t know for certain how good the amp section might be. Given that I know the 477 is good, I’d go with that myself.

Tate Holt

Yeah…seemed like a no-brainer to go for the v477. Just wanted to see if the 475 tested better than the 477 for any reason.

Thanks for the prompt response.

rain tengu001

Hi Chris,

Compare with 475, is there significant differences? 475 is some what less in dollars.

Should I pick 477 then? I use balance music and movie.

Thanks

I haven’t tested the 475 so I can’t offer any insight on it. Lots of things can change between model years, even if it isn’t on the spec sheet. For example, the volume control on the high-end Onkyo units last year went to a much cheaper part than before. You’ll never see it on the specs, but it makes a big difference, which is why I don’t like to comment on things I haven’t used.

The Onkyo 636 is my overall pick at The Wirecutter, but if you don’t need the features it has, or HDCP 2.2 support, then the Yamaha RX-V477 is much cheaper and still very good. Both were able to deal with the Revel f208 speakers, which is more than most people will use on one.

In that price range I’d look at the Pioneer Andrew Jones bookshelf speakers first, but I’m doing an update to Bookshelf Speakers for The Wirecutter soon, after which I can help more.

nycoolass

Hi Chris, Thank you so much for taking time to reply… I have both boxes here… so, I’ll try them both and I paid almost same price for both Onkyo and Yamaha… As for Pioneer Andrew Jones, it seems that we, Frenchies, don’t get to buy them here… So, I just bought the Q Acoustics, I’ll see by myself! 2 more things: 1/ Thank you for pointing to your other site The Wirecutter which is just amazing as well! 2/ Kiitos kaikesta ! (if it means anything ;-))… Anyway, merci beaucoup! Nicolas

william

I have rx v477 in 2 channel stereo setup with 2 floor standing speakers,,,Im not happy the sounds ,,,same like 20 watts per channel,, no good bass,,which is written 80 watts per channel,,,bad product wasting my money,,

What speakers are you using? As you can see on the bench test data, the RX-V477 will do 96 watts into an 8 ohm speaker before clipping, but that drops down to 47 watts into a 4 ohm speaker. If you’re using a true 4 ohm speaker, you’re going to need to step up to a much beefier receiver or an external amp to get the power you might want.

william

OMG,,,sir chris,,,im mistake,,,im using 4 ohms speakers for my car ..home made…..what is your recommended for 2 speakers in stereo setup ,,I want the same brand,,yamaha…thank you sir

I’ve not reviewed any of the Yamaha speakers, so I can’t give you suggestions there. The Pioneer Andrew Jones line is great, and affordable ($130 for bookshelves, $250 for a pair of towers) but Pioneer only sells them in the USA I believe.

????????? ????

Hello, Chris! Really good written review! But will this unit have enough capacity for my Wharfedale Obsidian 5.0 cinema pack? Thank you for your opinion!

Those speakers are 6 ohms nominal and 88dB sensitive, so it should be fine. You’ll be able to get around 106dB from them with the Yamaha which should be plenty for almost anyone.

There are some speakers that you can do wirelessly, but they both require pre-outs and cost a lot of money ($2,000+ a pair), so they probably aren’t a match for the RX-V477. Since wireless speakers have their own amps built-in, you’re better off using a preamp with them, or a receiver where you can power off the amp section, than a receiver.

Eman

Hi-Thanks so much for your reviews. I was thinking about this receiver and then came across your review and now I have a nice receiver! It is sounding good with my new Polk Monitor60 speakers. I’m still working through the setup as I haven’t made any changes yet from the automated test setup. Thanks!

Dylan Matson

Hi Chris, I have a question regarding two Yamaha Receivers. I currently have the Yamaha RX-V477. The previous receiver I had was a Yamaha RX-V690. It’s much older, and lacks many of the new technology’s and features of the RX-V477. But my question is, how come the V690 can get so much louder. It seems like my new one doesn’t produce enough power or something to be the same as the old one. I have to really crank it up on the new one about 1/2 to get what I got at 1/4 with the old one. Is this just… Read more »

Dylan, This could be multiple things. Both have similar stereo, full bandwidth power ratings so it likely isn’t the amp. But it could be a couple simple things: – Did the auto-setup set the fronts to be lower in level than the other speakers? This would cause it to play lower at the same setting. – The levels might just not match. The 477 might start the volume at -100 while the 690 starts at -80. Since they both have the same maximum output, and you can get the level you want from it, I wouldn’t worry. The volume setting… Read more »

Dylan Matson

Indeed, I’m blind. The 690 does start at -80 instead of -100. I’m not sure why I didn’t notice that in the first place. And the 477 did have the 2 front down to -2. I see that’s there no problem now. Thank you Chris.

Kelly

Chris, thinking about the 477 Yamaha and the pioneer speaker bundle sp-52fs. I see below you like the bookshelf. Would you get the tall floor speakers for the front left and right speakers for home theater along with the center channel and bookshelf for the rear speakers and sub, or do all 4 bookshelf along with center channel and sub? Is the 477 powerful enough for those speakers , mainly for home theater? thank you ! Kelly

The towers will provide better midrange and bass with their extra drivers compared to the bookshelves. The 477 should be fine playing them, and if you run a subwoofer it will be easier as well since the deep bass is what really causes the amp to work.

I have no idea about these speakers unfortunately, or what is causing this to happen. Sorry.

Bob

Thanks for the review. I picked up the 477 last week and i am loving i!

Good to hear!

Harry Hanson

Hmm.. I don’t understand your statement, “Integrated WiFi also would be nice”. I have the RX-V477 and it has integrated WiFi.

The RX-V477 doesn’t have WiFi but the RX-V577 and higher-end models do. You can see a comparison between those models here:

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/?tab=product_lineup&selected=514209_514211_514213_&mode=compare

The RX-V477 does have integrated Ethernet, so if that is connected then you can use AirPlay or HTC Connect to stream wirelessly, but the RX-V477 still doesn’t have WiFi.

Harry Hanson

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the reply. You’re absoutely right.. this entire time I time I thought I had the RX-477, but in fact it IS the RX-577. I must be losing it…

Joop van der Vleut

Hi, I bought the Yamaha V477 after reading this article (and some others ;-) ). Happy with the product. Good upgrade from my quite old Philips AVreceiver. Unfortunately there were some things I didn’t take note off. Can’t play SACD anymore since my dvdplayer outputs in 6ch analog and the Yamaha has no 6ch analog input. Another upgrade to go I guess.. What surprised me was that new connectivity (HDMI) introduces new challenges. Had quite some problems connecting HDMI-ARC to my Panasonic P50VT60 plasma. It’s probably the Viera-link that’s mixing things up. It now is to the extent that I… Read more »

The issues with HDMI-CEC (which Panasonic calls VieraLink, and everyone else calls by their own name, but is really HDMI-CEC) are universal it seems. If you are running a very simple setup (Blu-ray player +TV for example) then it usually just works. If you add in an HDMI sound bar or receiver, you start to get into issues with switching correctly to the right input and what controls the audio. It just isn’t the most reliable standard out there and I always use optical output instead. I also have a VT60 and HDMI-ARC on it works sometimes, but not always.… Read more »

Joop van der Vleut

HDMI-ARC did indeed work sometimes, but optical seemed more reliable. Strange that with new technology you get new problems. The old setup was just fine, apart from problems with lipsync that I couldn’t resolve on the receiver. That was the main reason for buying a new one.. As for the wifi part, I found a solution, with which I can make new use for my (till now) obsolete Linksys WRT54GL router –> http://www.cnet.com/how-to/reuse-an-old-router-to-bridge-devices-to-your-wireless-network/ Now I’m into deciding whether to buy me a used Sony BDP-S490 (2012) or Oppo 981HD (2008). Each of them has it’s own qualities. I need one… Read more »

shan

Hello Chris. I have a rx-v577. I am finding it difficult to fix a turntable as it does not have a phono jack. Is there any other way I can overcome this problem?

You can add a phono preamp to place between the turntable and the receiver. This will convert the low-output of the turntable to the proper level and apply the RIAA EQ curve that is necessary to the output. You can add one like this from Rolls or this Cambridge Audio one and fix that issue.

Miguel

Which “last year models” can be bought used or new that have similar features but are a step up above the Yamaha?

I don’t know, but the RX-V477 will likely be a “last years model” soon. I expect most new receivers to offer HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, though lower-end models may not to save on costs.

Martin Olivo

what speaker do you recommend for this Yamaha receiver?

Do you want bookshelves or towers? What price range?

Edward Cabeza

Hi Chris! thank you for the great review. My setup is with 5 speakers and no subwoofer. I am using 2 towers: klipsch reference rc-42 ii and Klipsch rc42 center. I am using for surround speakers 2 sony bookshelf speakers. I am not sure about setting Crossover since I am not using a subwoofer. Any help you can provide will be appreciated.

Rich Schelin

I’m considering the 477 to drive my outdoor setup. I have run 10AWG wires to 5 positions outside, and will primarily be using my iphone to control the unit to play streaming sources around the backyard.
1. Is there a mode that will send the music “equally” to all 5 channels, when listening to music I want to fill the backyard with lower volume music instead of truly get a surround effect.
2. Is a Pandora subscription required to stream, or can we do the ad-based free version with this unit?
Thanks!

Rich Schelin

Silly me, I went and dug up the manual and found:
1. 5 ch stereo sounds exactly like what I want for driving all 5 speakers.
2. Pandora “free” is supported with Ads.

jim lewis

I think this is a good summary of the features and benefits of this unit. However, as a complete novice to the field of home AV equipment and AV recievers I hadn’t appreciated how some of the features the higher models might offer could benefit me. I’m thinking in particular of the commonly offered ability to play to another zone (in higher models). As I wasn’t aware of it, I didn’t note it’s lack in the 477. I think this is a really useful feature and as the 677 offers line level outputs to an alternate zone that is the… Read more »

JuanP

Hi Chris, awesome review. I’m debating between getting this unit or the newly released RX-V379BL, the price point is almost the same ($30 difference).

On the new unit what holds me back is the lack of LAN or wi-fi connectivity (only Bluetooth) and also the lack of reviews; it does include HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0 though which were some of the weak points of the V477.

Have you tested that unit? What would you recommend between those two?
Thanks for your opinion.

The new models were only announced yesterday and aren’t shipping for another month or so probably. Once they are out I plan to test out at least the 479 model, but it will be a couple months before that can happen.

Gio Elevens

Hi Chris! My samsung TV shares connector for composite and component for video input. Instead of having sets of three connectors for RGB and Composite, I have total 5. One connector is used either as Yellow for composite or Green for RGB. Can I somehow have both RGB and Composite connected to the receiver and have both of the signals transferred to the TV without reconnecting the cables on the back of the TV?

No, you can’t. Your best bet is to get a more expensive receiver that does Analog Video to HDMI conversion, but I’d have to look up models to see which support that as I can’t recall off-hand.

Gio Elevens

Thank you for verifying and the prompt response. I will sacrifice my RGB and use composite on all old devices.

Barnomoy

Hi Chris! A very nice review. I am looking to get this one for my HT setup. I have an Onkyo TX-SR606 which is pathetic with Video handling and HDMI switching and thus want to replace it (HDMI switching is no longer working). I’m mostly interested in good 5.1 sound with networking and PC/phone mirroring abilities. My current speakers are Polk Audio TSi 300 floorstanders for the front, Polk Audio CS10 Center, Polk Audio OMW3 for the rear surrounds and an active Polk Audio PSW10 sub. I intend to keep the speakers as is. How suited is the V477 in… Read more »

Since those are all 8 ohm nominal speakers, the Yamaha should be able to drive them just fine. I’d also expect the V477 might be on sale, or having a price reduction, soon as the V479 was announced last week.

Barnomoy

Thanks Chris for the fast reply! Unfortunately I’m from India and we don’t have any sale as of now. I was wondering if I could bring a unit from the US and play it here ($249 looks mouth watering)? Are these units built to accept 110/120v and 220/230v AC (what we have in India) power input in the same unit?

Some of the 477 models ship with a voltage selection switch, some do not. I imagine the ones in the USA do not since everything here is 120V but models destined for areas with both may have the switch.

Barnomoy

Thanks a ton for the reply, Chris! Much appreciated.

Mattias DH

Hi Chris, I keep on coming back to this article (great review), as this unit looks like an even better deal now the V479 is almost out. Everything seems to suit my needs better (includes composite video, don’t care for too much wireless options), _except_ for the new remote control which looks a lot handier.
Any idea if the new remote (same as with the V379) is backward compatible with this model, and available separately..?

Sorry for the delay on this, but I have no idea. I’m hoping to review the updated 479 soon, but I don’t know if the remote will work or not.

Patrick McCartney

Hello Chris,

i just bought this receiver as part of the YHT-7910AU (HTIB).

http://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/hometheater-systems/home-theater-package/yht-7910au/?mode=model.

I simply don’t have the space to put the floor standing speakers up front, i was hoping to swap the FL FR with the SL SR.

Is this a feasable option and if so is it better to calibrate using YPAO or doing it manually.

Kind regards
Patrick

You can do that and it should be fine. You’ll have to redirect more of the bass to the subwoofer from the front channels than usual so it won’t be as good for music most likely, but it will work.

You can run YPAO and see if it gets the distance and levels correct, which it should, and copy those numbers down. It might not get the crossovers correct, but then you can fix those yourself if you want. None of the automated routines are really great unless they include a calibrated mic like Anthem does.

Patrick McCartney

Great will see how I go. Thank you for the detailed and swift response

Techhead

such a shame, this unit is useless if you want to use the Audio Return Channel from the TV, over HDMI.
One is forced to unplug the amp and plug in again to listen to sound from the TV.
Yamaha FAIL.

I’ve yet to have ARC work properly on anything all the time. Multiple receivers and sound bars, ARC works sometimes and then sometimes it fails. At this point I don’t think it’s a vendor problem, but how ARC and HDMI-CEC work together. I went back to Optical in my own system because it works all the time.

Dan Petre

I own a Yamaha 477 and I had trouble with ARC, it used to cut off sometimes. I have used a shorter HDMI cable and since then It works flawlessly. Over a long thin wire noise can mess up the digital signal. It wont ever manifest as a noisy sound but it would stop the sound being transmitted at all.
I have used the long HDMI cable previously without issues with a PVR box and had no issues with it.

Albert

Hi Chris,
I have wharfedale DX1 5.1, all speakers are 4 Ohm.
I want to buy Yamaha 677 or Denon x2100 (250-280 GBP)
As I know Yamaha 677 4 ohms speakers can be connected only yo front, , rear must be 6 ohm.
Denon can be configured for 4 ohm for all speakers, but because it very powerful reiver it can burn speakers
Can you please help with the problem?
Thank you..

Don’t worry about a receiver providing your speakers too much power. That never really happens in the real world, as you’d find it to be far too loud before you damaged them. It’s considered worse to have too little power, because the amplifier could clip and that’s more likely to damage speaker or sound worse.

The Yamaha will likely do fine with surrounds that are 4 Ohm, since they aren’t usually played as loud. But if the reason you’re worried about the Denon is because of too much power, don’t be.

Obaid Shah

Hello i want to use my RX-V477 With BOSE Acoustimass 10 Speaker whats your Opinion Chris..?

If you already own the Bose system, then it will work fine with it. If you don’t own the Bose system, then there are better options. The way the Acoustimass 10 system is designed you have to run all the speakers through the subwoofer and then from there to the receiver. That means no matter where you put the sub, all the speakers have to run wires to it, then it has to be close enough to the receiver for its custom cable to reach. This limits you from putting the sub in the best location for sound quality, and… Read more »

AJ

Would this work if I have a set of Sony speakers that came with a HTIB. They are rated 3ohms. I know I will probably need a new sub woofer since the one with the HTIB would need power but would the speakers be fine or would I blow them since this is rated 6ohms. Thanks.

I expect it would be fine, but I’ll be honest and say I don’t know for certain. My guess is that Sony uses a 3 ohm rating because it then makes the amp look like it produces more power than it really does (8 ohm ratings are traditional, 3 ohm would produce better numbers but the same current) and the Yamaha would be fine. I’d have to research this to know for sure, though.

Jeff

Hey Chris.
I recently bought the rx v477.
But i need some speakers. And i am no expert in this.
I now have a jamo sub 210 woofer, and want 2 bookshelf speakers.
Price range 400usd.(350euro)

Greetings Jeffrey

For just a pair of bookshelves, I recently did a huge piece for Wirecutter where I listened to 21 pairs here. The best overall was the Dali Zensor 1 which you can also get a matching center for later on. If you can stretch the budget the KEF Q100 was a clear step up (and I bought KEF R300’s after listening to the KEF models) but more expensive. Those would be my suggestions.

Jeff

And what do you think about the yamaha ns 333 or the jamo c91?

I haven’t heard either of those myself so I can’t really comment on them.

Branko SS

Hi, i got this receiver and using it with jamo e650. It sounds good but you did not notice one very important thing. It has delay. If you connect a guitar procesor to it is hasso much delay that you cant play guitar and the only way you can go around the problem is listening it in direct mode. And in direct mode sounds like crap. Before this i had panasonic sa he 70 and it did not have any delay ! I was able to use all of the dsp modes and not one had delay and the panasonic… Read more »

ande_raven

Hi, I’m looking for a receiver to use mainly for music, using 2 speakers. I’m not sure if there are disadvantages (concerning sound) when using a surround system for only music purposes (2speakers)? I have also been looking for powerful stereo receivers, but these are most of the time expensive (even second hand). Do you think this receiver is a good buy just using it for music playback?

Going with a pure stereo receiver can get you better features, like a better designed volume control and more powerful amplifier. It might seem strange that a volume control would be so important, but since every audio signal has to go through that circuit, the better designed it is the lower distortion and noise you’ll get in the end. However you can use something like the Yamaha just fine as a stereo receiver. The amp will be able to focus on only two channels though it still isn’t ideal for harder loads (those below 6 ohms) while a stereo amp… Read more »

ande_raven

thanks for your reply Chris, I’ve decided to go for an older (second hand) stereo amplifier, because of the fact the older models often sound nicer, plus your arguements confirm my choice.

Andrew Whitcomb

You said that there is no HDMI 2.0, but I thought they said they support 4K like the other models. Are you sure about this? How do you know there isn’t any HDMI 2.0?

You can do 4K with HDMI 1.4a, you just can only do it at 8-bits per pixel with 24Hz or 30Hz. To do it with 10-bits or 12-bits for HDR and wide color gamut, and 60Hz, you need HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. The Yamaha lacks those on 2014 models like the 477.

Ilias

Hi Chris,
I own Yamaha 477 and now i’m considering to purchase a pair of Dali Zensor 5 as front speakers. Will Zensor 5 pair good the Yamaha? How abt Dali Zensor 7? Is it too much for my space and Yamaha? The room is abt 25 sq.mtrs. Also note 80% movies & 20% music. Thanks in advance.

Parvez

Hi everyone,

This is Parvez from indian capital . I have a query , is it possible to connect Active subwoofer come along with sony SA D 10 with my Yamaha RX – V 477 audio video reciever . If yes , please suggest me the type of cable to be used for connecting the two.